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Imagine 10 easyJet planes crashed in a single day.
normal reaction: there's something wrong with these easyJet planes. Ground them and investigate it.
crazy reaction: suggest that not all easyJet planes crashed, thousands didn't crash. Ask why we are blaming all easyjet planes, label people easyJetaphobes. This was only a few bad planes. What we need is to be tolerant, and just carry on as normal.

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i understand why you see extreme acts a something to react to, but, if you remove them, the closest to them becomes the next extreme ad nauseam

no matter what we do at any point in society shit things will happen, the thing to do is to understand that and not over react to it as we are now

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I'm not overreacting. I'm trying to get people to wake up to what's going on.

The lives we lead and the type of country we live in are a choice.

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oh i agree, id be all over anyone under suspicion, but when they're all gone they'll always be some clown like me with a different lifestyle view whose considered the next big threat

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No.
You're a twat but as far as I know you're not looking to kill anyone for your beliefs of the Oakland raiders.......

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:-D

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but i will be once you've removed every other antagonist from your life... geddit? nah, you never will, and neither will they, hence the futility of cancelling parades

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No you won't be. Stop trying to claim victim status.

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I don't think that's a fair comparison, and I don't think your interpretation of how some people react to terrorist attacks is quite correct.

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I think you're wrong.

Search twitter or Facebook and you'll find endless reactions to the endless terror attacks, one every nine days in Europe this year, that look like that.

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So what is the real life equivalent then, re: Islamic extremists. You find every Muslim in the country and lock them up, or chuck them out? Besides the moral debate around that, how would it even be practical?

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I've presented options on numerous occasions that you routinely ignore.

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We're discussing your Easyjet metaphor now. What is the equivalent of grounding all planes?

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There are 3000 people on the watch list. Round them up and interview. There are thousands who have marched up and down with placards suggesting the beheading of all who insult Islam. The police stand and watch. Stop standing by. People have walk d about carrying the Isis flag, one by the Houses of Parliament, arrest them.

Stop being passive.

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I don't believe they're as passive as you think they are. There are good reasons why they handle things like they do. I would argue that the way it's done at the moment has actually prevented more attacks than it's caused.

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Ok, you're now wasting my time. I agreed hours ago that they've done as much as they can under the circumstances. My point is we need to do more.

Unlike you I've offered suggestions. I'm off.

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how about we pull out of the middle east and stop funding terrorism on their back door for cheaper oil first?

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Are Sweden and Germany in the middle East? How about the Belgians? What about the Spanish? Denmark?

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Well you could start with the 2000 that are currently known to be extremist.

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Suspected to be, not known to be. If someone is known, they get arrested, tried and prosecuted. Or deported, if that's an option.
Do you included the suspected right wing extremists in such a cull?

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Are you going to vote Labour and get more police resource and funding to be able to help do this?
Do you still keep a track on what these people are doing once they're gone, given that intelligence can also help monitor people not on the list and help foil potential future attacks?

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Like labour would spend money on the police force do me favour the cuts started under Labour if they hadn't bankrupted the county we would have more resources available.

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So Labour aren't just culpable for global terrorism, they also caused the global economic crisis?
Show me the evidence that cuts to police budgets started under Labour? The reality is that they spent more on defence than Tory governments. It worries me that people are stating myths as fact and are choosing who they vote for based on nonsense!

Theresa May cut police funding when she was Home Secretary and the GMP themselves warned her of the potential consequences. See for yourself https://twitter.com/ajscattergood/status/867497144420380673

Labour have promised tens of thousands of extra police officers if they get elected, whilst Amber Rudd refuses to rule out even more cuts to the police budget
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyn-promises-labour-will-put-10000-extra-police-on-the-streets-a3528021.html

http://www.labour.org.uk/policecutscalculator

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Classic straw man argument as usual.

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How so? I've addressed each point.

Like labour would spend money on the police force do me favour -
I've presented a link to the promise Labour have made, to increase spending on the police

The cuts started under Labour - I've asked for evidence of this as this doesn't stack up with everything I've seen

If they hadn't bankrupted the county we would have more resources available - well they either under-funded or they overspent, which is it?

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Lol

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https://twitter.com/ajscattergood/status/867497144420380673

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Corbyn also said no upper limit to immigration cunt of the highest order.

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That's a quote you've completely taken out of context.
People vote based on nonsense like this, it scares me, it really does.

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When a right wing extremist blows up innocent people then yes.

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Well, let's not forget that a right wing extremist murdered an MP last summer

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